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Post by sharie on Jul 11, 2008 18:46:39 GMT -5
Love that Iw is getting bigger n better, but I thought the main goal was to keep it small, to concentrate on having a few bands that you can focus on? I'm confused at this and hope that the small time feel doesn't get the bands lost like big labels do? In ITYTKM, kiefer said we will not have more than a couple bands signed, to keep it focused, does this loose focus with all the new bands? I just would hate to see the bands that we love and promote get lost in the mix..  |
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Post by tellthetruth on Jul 11, 2008 23:40:11 GMT -5
sharie...i was wondering the same things that you are. universal republic seems to be a very large label, with quite a number of high profile artists.
i dont know much of anything about the music industry, but i love the concept upon which ironworks was founded...allowing artists to make the records that they want to make, and not being pushed one way or another by a large label.
i would love to hear from someone "in the know" about how this partnering will work and what, if any impact it will have on the creative freedom that is the hallmark of ironworks.
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Post by Fluffy Poodle on Jul 12, 2008 12:19:49 GMT -5
I think it is a good move. The bigger label will help the IW artist to have more recognition.
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Post by chris88 on Jul 12, 2008 12:43:11 GMT -5
it will also give each artist less time and then they will start getting pushed into making records, like tellthetruth said..
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Post by mizzkitkat on Jul 12, 2008 13:47:34 GMT -5
I think it is a good move. The bigger label will help the IW artist to have more recognition. That depends....depends on whether the artist can put something out that Joe Public (not just a handful of fans) wants to hear. Major labels care about profits, bottom line....not sitting around a couple of years waiting on an album (especially when the artist isnt technically established yet) Good or bad remains to be seen seeing as the details of this arent being put out. If its a distribution deal, great...distribution is definately not a cheap or easy thing. If its a lot more than that, kiss the original mission statement that was sold to everyone bye bye. Its a wait n see thing at this point.... Just makes me glad Ron made the move he did, when he did seeing the climate at this label is changing (my perception). |
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Post by fishey on Jul 12, 2008 17:59:43 GMT -5
maybe IW was finding it difficult to push their artists and get them recognized without a bigger network behind them. would be nice to hear more about the merger and maybe we will in the future. Seems like Kiefer and Jude are all about putting the artist first and i cant see that changing. Ron Sexsmith? Im sure he did what he thought was comfortable for him dont know that he is making any more waves now than he did with IW.
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Post by mizzkitkat on Jul 12, 2008 21:21:11 GMT -5
Well fishey...we will have to disagree on your Ron point...lot more waves have been made. Not sure where your looking but if you compare what was put on about his last album and what is being put out and continues to be put out with his current release....big difference. Huge difference with the labels in experience and attitude and I agree, Ron made a good choice for himself. BUT, this thread isnt about that Simple fact is that they will release what details they want, when they want, IF they want. Other labels dont release full details, unless its in a trade magazine....so Im thinking this one shouldnt be headline news either. The whole "putting the artist first" thing may or may not change or shift. Major labels are not known for that kind of attitude....if you arent up to the par THEY think you should be....the "do we keep or drop" meetings begin (Jude himself experienced that). For them, its a simple matter of dollars or bottom line...what kind of money can you make for them and how. Its called record BUSINESS, not record CODDLING. |
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Post by sharie on Jul 13, 2008 0:04:08 GMT -5
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Post by kate on Jul 13, 2008 7:01:44 GMT -5
I must be living in a bubble or completely missing something as I have no idea what y'all be talking about!!!  i.e. I don't know the 'news' That said I agree with MKK that I don't feel it's up to us to influence how Ironworks run their business. Objectives and strategies change as market and situations change. And it is a business.... not a charity. I am sure no decision has been made lightly or without due consideration of the artists. |
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Post by kate on Jul 13, 2008 8:10:44 GMT -5
OK.
Just got caught up cos I eventually got round to reading myspace blogs and saw Judes.
He calls them 'partners' which is different (IMO) to 'merger'
Also, it states that
which makes it sound like it is on an 'artist by artist' basis.
I believe they would only do this for the benefit of the artist and the business and they know what they're doing! ;D
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Post by fishey on Jul 13, 2008 9:03:48 GMT -5
i feel the same way you do Kate. Jude and Kiefer im sure made an informed decision and strategies must evolve as you grow and learn. hoping its all good for everyone and maybe we will hear a bit more about it as time goes on or maybe not! |
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Post by mizzkitkat on Jul 13, 2008 10:30:19 GMT -5
pfffft....they know they want MY advice....they just dont know yet that they know they want my advice  LMFAO hehehehe BUT, I know that they know that they will know that they knowingly will want my suggestions......bwhahahahah, try saying THAT five times fast ;D Like any other business...time will tell just how positive or negative something is or becomes. BTW...I want a kitty taking an X out of a box pic...no fair kate |
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Post by Giselle on Jul 14, 2008 5:27:38 GMT -5
Interesting I am all for it getting the word out about IW's great artists in a bigger way and I guess they are working on one band at a time means that ....... hang on ....... does it mean hh is coming out first and holding up RDB  ............. OK so one band at a times means they are still looking after each artist individually. Hopefully it frees IW up to make great music and Universal Republic will concentrate on helping with the promotion side. |
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Post by sharie on Jul 14, 2008 18:17:56 GMT -5
hang on ....... does it mean hh is coming out first and holding up RDB ............. He did say HH was first! and BBOP has a new song on their myspace, I like it.. Hopefully it frees IW up to make great music and Universal Republic will concentrate on helping with the promotion side. Oh I like that, good thinking. |
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Post by Giselle on Jul 14, 2008 18:57:25 GMT -5
New BBOP  ............ *runs off to myspace* Not bad ....... good lyrics  could do with more bass  ..... to soon |
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LMFAO hehehehe BUT, I know that they know that they will know that they knowingly will want my suggestions......bwhahahahah, try saying THAT five times fast ;D
............. OK so one band at a times means they are still looking after each artist individually. 
............ *runs off to myspace*